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Wife Beating for Mr. Hasan: Some proofs !!
I wrote an article in response to Mr. Faisal's "haay Mukto-mona" which perturbed one Islamic mind and some mysterious translation of "beating" was intended to present that claim to have different meaning than I quoted. I hereby wish to give a response to the author's claim. [Mr. Hasan]
[My response] Before answering Mr. Hasan's specific question, let's look how
the various renowned translators
Agreed-upon Translations of Verse 4.34 : "Modern Islamists" like Mr. Hasan perhaps will try to portray that the verse containing an Arabic word "idriboohunna" (root word is "darb") didn�t really mean �to beat them,� but rather to "separate from them" or to �strike them out� or something else. But after studying and analyzing the verse critically, I found that they all don�t change the meaning of "idriboohunnaa" in verse 4:34 at all. And it was CORRECTLY understood and properly translated by the above mentioned translators as �beat.� Here is the detailed analysis: Transliteration of 4:34: Alrrijalu qawwamoona AAala alnnisa-i bima faddala Allahu baAAdahum AAala baAAdin wabima anfaqoo min amwalihim faalssalihatu qanitatun hafithatun lilghaybi bima hafitha Allahu waallatee takhafoona nushoozahunna faAAithoohunna waohjuroohunna fee almadajiAAi waidriboohunna fa-in ataAAnakum fala tabghoo AAalayhinna sabeelan inna Allaha kana AAaliyyan kabeeran English translation: Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has made one of them to excel the other, and because they spend (to support them) from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient (to Allah and to their husbands), and guard in the husband�s absence what Allah orders them to guard (e.g. their chastity and their husband�s property). As to those women on whose part you see ill conduct, admonish them (first), (next) refuse to share their beds, (and last) beat them (lightly, if it is useful); but if they obey you, seek not against them means (of annoyance). Surely, Allah is Ever Most High, Most Great. [ Translation: YUSUFALI] Here are the meaning of some key Arabic words: Ae-rijalu qawwaamoona �alan-nisaa�i---Men are the protectors and maintainers of women Qantitat�Those (women who are obedient to Allah) Hafi-zatul-lilghayb---Those (women) who guard (their chastity and their husband�s property) in (their husband�s) absence Ma hafi-zallah---What Allah orders them to guard Nushu-zahunn---Their disloyalty and ill-conduct Needless to say, the word �idriboohunna� means "to beat" here (Idriboo = beat, Hunna = them); So "beat them" is the only sensible meaning of idriboohunna and that's what we find in every translation. There is a similar (but not same) word "Adriboo Anhunna" which has a different meaning and used in different purposes though. Please note that the original Arabic text does not say �lightly.� YUSUFALI has deliberately tried to soften the harsh verse of Quran here (remember the subject of linguistic skill of various translators that I mentioned in my initial write-up). Please consult with Arabic speaking Islamic scholars if you do not believe me; or check other translator's translations. Mr. Hasan might again come with his same lame argument pointing my lack of knowledge in Arabic. Let's then check the comment form an Egyptian Kafir, who is an Arabic speaking member of FFI :
Example from Hadith: Can beat your wife but do not beat her like a slave girl...1.0142 A man will not be asked as to why he beat his wife...11.2142 Proofs of Sahabis beating their wives: Sunan Abu Dawud- 11-2142:- THE PROPHET (pbuh) SAID,-"A MAN ( in hereafter) WILL NOT BE ASKED AS TO WHY HE BEAT HIS WIFE". Bangla Bukhari by Abdul Karim Khan Hiadis #2468:- THE PROPHET (pbuh) SAID,-"DON'T BEAT YOUR WIVES AS YOU BEAT YOUR SLAVES. AND THEN SLEEP WITH THEM IN THE NIGHTS". Hope, I could clarify my points. [Mr. Hasan]
[My Response] Please Remember that Quran repeatedly claims to be a "clear book" (5:15) "easy to understand� (44:58 , 54:22 , 54:32, 54:40) "explained in detail" (6:114), "conveyed clearly", (5:16, 10:15) and with �no doubt� in it (2:1). So your claim that Quran is not such easy to understand, seems to contradict with Allah's own statement! And It is useless to point out how many people go to Al-Azhar University or how many people believe in Islam. Unfortunately, the popularity of a belief has little to do with how "correct" it is, or whether it "works"; Consider how many people believe in astrology, graphology, ghosts, and other fairy tales and pseudo-sciences. This is my last response in this thread. I just wanted to put one generic example (mentioning "beat") in my initial write-up just to clarify some issues of mistranslation argued by Faisal; however, I had no intention to enter in an unnecessary debate of wife-beating. As an atheist I view every religion as falsehood and I do not reserve any special hatred or grudge for any specific religion- what I feel is that it is simply a human weakness to want to believe in gods, no matter Islamic or unislamic. In fact, Hindu rituals in many cases (such as "ekadoshee", "dhandurba-onushthan", "dowry" etc..) in my opinion, are much more cruel and offensive towards women compared to prevalent Islamic practices. Certainly in many primitive and dogmatic human societies, religion allows the people to deal with phenomena that they do not adequately understand, neither they want to. No pun indeed. And lastly, My Name is Avijit Roy (Not Rai).
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